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#1 babigos

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 11:45 PM

La Secla just isn't that good. It kills me to no end watching him try to sell the play action. My 4 year old nephew could sell it better than he could.

I say it's time to put Faulkner in there. Let him take his beating this year, because we're going to need him next year. La Secla just isn't the guy and I never though he was from the start. We really need to start thinking towards next season now, because this season is pretty much a write-off at this point.


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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:48 AM

La Secla injured his ribs so I don't think we will see him for a while. I hate criticizing players but I do not see Faulkner as the answer (though he did throw that TD pass). If we are looking to the future, maybe Stewert should take his lumps the rest of this season. However, don't be surprised if Jurich, who is redshirting, ends up being "the Man" next year. That is one reason why playing someone today "for the future" MAY not make that much sense. I don't know. I am too depressed to think clearly right now.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 10:04 AM

I'm not one who advocates criticizing players, because at the FBS level, it usually boils down to coaching. If the coaches cant's see that La Secla's ability to sell the play action needs a lot of work, we're doomed. Athleticism definitely plays a big roll too and some players have it and some just don't. That's just a cruel reality for anyone.

Also, I definitely Stewart as the QB of the future, but right now he's just way too raw. He could use a year or two to work on mechanics, etc.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 03:12 PM

What is it about SJS that they can not recruit a good QB? Fresno Nevada Boise all recruit great QBs why can't we.In fact you only need to recruit one every 3 or 4 years. What is the problem?

Also is it my imagination, but does Faulkner seem to fumble the ball every time he plays? I do not think we should go after QBS other programs let go. Remember Sablehaus? I am sure there are others.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 03:44 PM

La Secla injured his ribs so I don't think we will see him for a while. I hate criticizing players but I do not see Faulkner as the answer (though he did throw that TD pass). If we are looking to the future, maybe Stewert should take his lumps the rest of this season. However, don't be surprised if Jurich, who is redshirting, ends up being "the Man" next year. That is one reason why playing someone today "for the future" MAY not make that much sense. I don't know. I am too depressed to think clearly right now.


Sorry to hear about La Secla's injury. I trust Coach Mac's judgement on who starts. Let's face it, our talent level isn't very deep at pretty much every position. And then there' the injuries. These next three games are going to be brutal, especially Nevada and Boise State. I was bummed out too Rick, but then my Chargers won big and it's lifted my spirits a bit. Think long term my Spartan friends, that's the only way were going to get through this season without committing hari kari. I still think we'll beat New Mexico State and (possibly) LA Tech. Yes, I predicted a 4 to 5 win season before the season began, but that's just not going to happen. *Now I'm hoping for 2 to 3 wins. Anything less than that will be...demoralizing.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 03:53 PM


La Secla injured his ribs so I don't think we will see him for a while. I hate criticizing players but I do not see Faulkner as the answer (though he did throw that TD pass). If we are looking to the future, maybe Stewert should take his lumps the rest of this season. However, don't be surprised if Jurich, who is redshirting, ends up being "the Man" next year. That is one reason why playing someone today "for the future" MAY not make that much sense. I don't know. I am too depressed to think clearly right now.


Sorry to hear about La Secla's injury. I trust Coach Mac's judgement on who starts. Let's face it, our talent level isn't very deep at pretty much every position. And then there' the injuries. These next three games are going to be brutal, especially Nevada and Boise State. I was bummed out too Rick, but then my Chargers won big and it's lifted my spirits a bit. Think long term my Spartan friends, that's the only way were going to get through this season without committing hari kari. I still think we'll beat New Mexico State and (possibly) LA Tech. Yes, I predicted a 4 to 5 win season before the season began, but that's just not going to happen. *Now I'm hoping for 3 wins. Anything less than that will be...demoralizing. :blush:


I think there is no way we'll beat La Tech or NMSU. We're just not that good. If a bad FCS team can beat us (and another should have beat us), how will we beat them? Sadly, I can see us losing the rest of our games. The schedule doesn't get much easier and injuries will continue to happen.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 04:06 PM



La Secla injured his ribs so I don't think we will see him for a while. I hate criticizing players but I do not see Faulkner as the answer (though he did throw that TD pass). If we are looking to the future, maybe Stewert should take his lumps the rest of this season. However, don't be surprised if Jurich, who is redshirting, ends up being "the Man" next year. That is one reason why playing someone today "for the future" MAY not make that much sense. I don't know. I am too depressed to think clearly right now.


Sorry to hear about La Secla's injury. I trust Coach Mac's judgement on who starts. Let's face it, our talent level isn't very deep at pretty much every position. And then there' the injuries. These next three games are going to be brutal, especially Nevada and Boise State. I was bummed out too Rick, but then my Chargers won big and it's lifted my spirits a bit. Think long term my Spartan friends, that's the only way were going to get through this season without committing hari kari. I still think we'll beat New Mexico State and (possibly) LA Tech. Yes, I predicted a 4 to 5 win season before the season began, but that's just not going to happen. *Now I'm hoping for 3 wins. Anything less than that will be...demoralizing. :blush:


I think there is no way we'll beat La Tech or NMSU. We're just not that good. If a bad FCS team can beat us (and another should have beat us), how will we beat them? Sadly, I can see us losing the rest of our games. The schedule doesn't get much easier and injuries will continue to happen.


You know me babigos, I'm the positive thinking type. I do think we'll beat NMSU and am hopeful we'll win our final home game (because I'm flying up to see it). 2 and 11 would be even worse than last year % wise. I'm feeling bad for Coach Mac already.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 06:07 PM

FWIW. NMSU has NEVER beaten San Jose State in Las Cruces. They have beaten us twice but both times were in Spartan.

As to recruiting quarterbacks. We need to be able to recognize and go after talent. Kaepernick was OURS. He visited and WANTED to come here. Our last HC did not believe he was good enough to receive our offer. Therefore, NEVADA. Did that coach, in his long career, EVER recruit a quarterback that made it to the NFL? Not his thing. The better quality quarterbacks he had were inherited from the coaches he followed.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 09:41 PM




La Secla injured his ribs so I don't think we will see him for a while. I hate criticizing players but I do not see Faulkner as the answer (though he did throw that TD pass). If we are looking to the future, maybe Stewert should take his lumps the rest of this season. However, don't be surprised if Jurich, who is redshirting, ends up being "the Man" next year. That is one reason why playing someone today "for the future" MAY not make that much sense. I don't know. I am too depressed to think clearly right now.


Sorry to hear about La Secla's injury. I trust Coach Mac's judgement on who starts. Let's face it, our talent level isn't very deep at pretty much every position. And then there' the injuries. These next three games are going to be brutal, especially Nevada and Boise State. I was bummed out too Rick, but then my Chargers won big and it's lifted my spirits a bit. Think long term my Spartan friends, that's the only way were going to get through this season without committing hari kari. I still think we'll beat New Mexico State and (possibly) LA Tech. Yes, I predicted a 4 to 5 win season before the season began, but that's just not going to happen. *Now I'm hoping for 3 wins. Anything less than that will be...demoralizing. :blush:


I think there is no way we'll beat La Tech or NMSU. We're just not that good. If a bad FCS team can beat us (and another should have beat us), how will we beat them? Sadly, I can see us losing the rest of our games. The schedule doesn't get much easier and injuries will continue to happen.


You know me babigos, I'm the positive thinking type. I do think we'll beat NMSU and am hopeful we'll win our final home game (because I'm flying up to see it). 2 and 11 would be even worse than last year % wise. I'm feeling bad for Coach Mac already.


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Posted 03 October 2010 - 09:47 PM

I think La Secla getting a bad rap for the UCD game. I was at the game and in the 2nd half he had NO TIME to throw the ball. He was constantly being harassed and hit. He's not a bad QB... when he's had time to throw he's delivered.

ANY QB who has a bad line is going to have a hard time getting it done.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 10:20 PM

I think La Secla getting a bad rap for the UCD game. I was at the game and in the 2nd half he had NO TIME to throw the ball. He was constantly being harassed and hit. He's not a bad QB... when he's had time to throw he's delivered.

ANY QB who has a bad line is going to have a hard time getting it done.


I agree. It's hard for any QB to complete passes when he's always on the run...or worse. It takes more than the QB to win a game. We had a 13 - 0 lead, so the defense should be held equally accountable. Win or lose, football is a team game and sadly, our's isn't very good right now.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 10:29 PM

FWIW. NMSU has NEVER beaten San Jose State in Las Cruces. They have beaten us twice but both times were in Spartan.

As to recruiting quarterbacks. We need to be able to recognize and go after talent. Kaepernick was OURS. He visited and WANTED to come here. Our last HC did not believe he was good enough to receive our offer. Therefore, NEVADA. Did that coach, in his long career, EVER recruit a quarterback that made it to the NFL? Not his thing. The better quality quarterbacks he had were inherited from the coaches he followed.


UC Davis proved to us that the past means nothing. I'm not positive, but I don't think we ever lost to them at home before yesterday? Although I think we'll get the win at Las Cruses, it has nothing to do with what's happened there before. I just think were a little better than they are...but not much.

Kaepernick is an awesome QB and Tomey blew it for passing him up. That's one of the reasons why Nevada's Coach Ault is already in the Hall of Fame. He knows talent and gets them to perform. I predict the Wolfpack will beat the Boise State Broncos in Reno. ::bdh::

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 07:37 AM

The record between UCD and SJSU is 4-4-2.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 12:13 PM

The record between UCD and SJSU is 4-4-2.


The Q: have we lost to them at home before this past Saturday? I don't have a media guide.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 01:29 PM


The record between UCD and SJSU is 4-4-2.


The Q: have we lost to them at home before this past Saturday? I don't have a media guide.


I think the last time UCDavis won at San Jose State was 1931! Oh, the inhumanity.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 01:36 PM



The record between UCD and SJSU is 4-4-2.


The Q: have we lost to them at home before this past Saturday? I don't have a media guide.


I think the last time UCDavis won at San Jose State was 1931! Oh, the inhumanity.


Thank's Dave. IMHO, that loss was more frustrating than the blow-outs we've been dealt over the past two years. ::bash::

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 02:08 PM

Earlier this year, I had advocated going with Matt Faulkner as our starting QB based solely on what people were writing about the spring game and summer practice. The argument was that, without having watched either one, if they were deemed #1 and #1A, we should go with Faulkner because he is a JUCO transfer (meaning he has some experience) and he could create some consistency at the QB position (with him having another year of eligibility). He has a cannon of an arm, but little accuracy. This could have been corrected throughout the year.

I also was never really convinced with La Secla but since Coach Mac put his support behind him, I did as well. I saw him at the game and he looked more upset with the offense than anything else. That INT pass intended for Chandler Jones was a big question mark for me. I don't know if La Secla underthrew the receiver or if Jones misread the play and forgot to turn around. Either way, communication was a big problem. Faulkner didn't seem to have that problem when he was playing. His problem, again, was accuracy. He just overthrew a receiver late in the 4th that would have iced the game.

That being said, I don't believe that Mac will sit La Secla unless he got injured to the point where he couldn't play. Even in that case, the minute La Secla is healed, he'll put him back in the line up. It's really hard for a coach, especially a new coach, to put your support behind a QB only to have to bench him after 5 games.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 02:43 PM

Earlier this year, I had advocated going with Matt Faulkner as our starting QB based solely on what people were writing about the spring game and summer practice. The argument was that, without having watched either one, if they were deemed #1 and #1A, we should go with Faulkner because he is a JUCO transfer (meaning he has some experience) and he could create some consistency at the QB position (with him having another year of eligibility). He has a cannon of an arm, but little accuracy. This could have been corrected throughout the year.

I also was never really convinced with La Secla but since Coach Mac put his support behind him, I did as well. I saw him at the game and he looked more upset with the offense than anything else. That INT pass intended for Chandler Jones was a big question mark for me. I don't know if La Secla underthrew the receiver or if Jones misread the play and forgot to turn around. Either way, communication was a big problem. Faulkner didn't seem to have that problem when he was playing. His problem, again, was accuracy. He just overthrew a receiver late in the 4th that would have iced the game.

That being said, I don't believe that Mac will sit La Secla unless he got injured to the point where he couldn't play. Even in that case, the minute La Secla is healed, he'll put him back in the line up. It's really hard for a coach, especially a new coach, to put your support behind a QB only to have to bench him after 5 games.


It was into triple coverage and shouldn't have been thrown at all, at least not by a "senior" QB.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 10:44 PM


Earlier this year, I had advocated going with Matt Faulkner as our starting QB based solely on what people were writing about the spring game and summer practice. The argument was that, without having watched either one, if they were deemed #1 and #1A, we should go with Faulkner because he is a JUCO transfer (meaning he has some experience) and he could create some consistency at the QB position (with him having another year of eligibility). He has a cannon of an arm, but little accuracy. This could have been corrected throughout the year.

I also was never really convinced with La Secla but since Coach Mac put his support behind him, I did as well. I saw him at the game and he looked more upset with the offense than anything else. That INT pass intended for Chandler Jones was a big question mark for me. I don't know if La Secla underthrew the receiver or if Jones misread the play and forgot to turn around. Either way, communication was a big problem. Faulkner didn't seem to have that problem when he was playing. His problem, again, was accuracy. He just overthrew a receiver late in the 4th that would have iced the game.

That being said, I don't believe that Mac will sit La Secla unless he got injured to the point where he couldn't play. Even in that case, the minute La Secla is healed, he'll put him back in the line up. It's really hard for a coach, especially a new coach, to put your support behind a QB only to have to bench him after 5 games.


It was into triple coverage and shouldn't have been thrown at all, at least not by a "senior" QB.



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Posted 04 October 2010 - 10:54 PM

How can you put all of this on LaSecla. We have a Head Coach who has never been in this position. He is starting 8 true freshman, when he has a large number of experienced players who he is not providing an opportunity to play. Could it be that our new HEAD COACH made commitments to his recruits that they would come in and start their first year leaving his experienced group hanging out to dry. COACH MAC lacks integrity. how dare he leaves the group of players that have been here putting in their time hanging. I predict he is back as a positions coach within three years. This is a train wreck. How dare you put this on Jordan, the coaching here SUCKS!!! We should never loose to a FBS team. MAC is awful.



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